Sounds interesting i wonder who will be there all teams go this should be fun carson taking it home for the west coast on there own home gym
so if there are teams with only three people they cant compete? they have to do trios? that is kinda lame.
sharp is a big ass joke forreal! theyre only calling in a "championship" to make it sound big but you know its just another ghetto competition. all they want is your $$$ and you get a cheapass plastic trophy!
USA and DTU are more expensive and you get the same thing? don't get me wrong. SHARP isn't doing well with the short flags community. but at least they offer to let us compete at EVERY competition.
shut up this will be fun. and teams with 3 can compete as a team
sharp is a good way to practice!!yeah its not a big competition.. but its good to bring newbies to before the REAL season starts!
OMG, Sharp IS a joke! No team should ever compete at Sharp, it's such a phony, biased comp. You got to be kidding me, teams can't really be serious about competing there, are they? Really??
biased? really? so pathetic.
biased? If any comp circuit should be called bias it should be USA. Anyway, any comp circuit that puts short flags in it should be given our respect and consideration because there are very few outlets for our community to shine. And just because everyone gets a trophy doesn't make 1st or even 2nd & 3rd any less meaningful. So whoevers dissing sharp take your nose out of the air and stop being such snobs because the last time I checked short flags is about twirling and being the best no matter what comp it is.
lets make this a big comp. everyone in the shortflags and hiphop divisions should all compete at this comp. should be the new la mirada
For sure Narbonne, LBP, Bishop, and of course Carson will be performing there. Will Channel Islands drive all the way from Oxnard to compete here in Carson?
I compete @ sharp and I think they're an okay comp. Corcuit... I mean they pay more attention to studio teams than public school teams. But I don't think they are biased.
Seriously... Biased.... No, I don't think so. And another thing wut happened to Oxnard and San Pedro? I havnt seen them yet?
I wouldn't... I agree that Sharp is Bias and cheap! Don't waste your money, for real.
i dont think poly's going... cuz i know denny and q work for usa... and i know usa doesnt really work well with sharp... so yeah... and dont forget, WEST TORRANCE NEXT WEEK!!!
why is poly been flaking out on all the comps so far?
West Torrance I can't wait !!!Hope to see all teams
dude! there is NOTHING ELSE if sharp isn't there! and if USA threw in another competition for us would you guys even go? i dont think so. so if we do cut sharp out of the circut... we would have regionals, nationals and DTU... THATS IT! what a fun competition season!
I agree wit the last comment... :)even if we don't like sharp wut other choice do we have?
Oh, PLEASE! U mean to say that we should go compete at cheap-ass Sharp just because there isn't anything else? Really?? What kind of a dumb reason is that?? I ain't spending MY money for the chance to win some plastic trophy and get judged by pretend judges who have no experience judging me. Forget that!
You ever notice the people at Sharp act indifferent toward teams who have small spectator turn-out?
thats cuz sharp makes their money off dumbshit like "sweepstakes" awards - the more spectators/supporters you can draw in for them, it means more money for them = more points for your team! and wtf, if your team pays the registration fee on time you get more points too! this is a big joke!
once you know how to judge one type of performance you pretty much know how to judge all of them. i dont know how to do ANY hip hop. but we all know whats a good hip hop routine from a bad one? same goes for short flags. i mean about only 1 judge that knows how to twirl for USA judges at a time for USA competitions. so to say the judges don't know what they are talking about is kind of a weak argument... anyone with dance or cheer experience could effectively and fairly judge any of our comps... and definitely vice versa.sharp a few years back judged in this order and it was extremely accurate to the skill level of the teams at the timeKnotts state Champs 20071st Long Beach Poly2nd San Pedro3rd Hoover4th Temple City5th Camarillo6th Crasenta Vally
I am a teacher and a coach (not short flags) and a few days ago one of my students told me about this short flag blog spot. I thought it was a very cool idea and was interested to see what it was all about. I have to say that I am very disappointed with some of the comments that are posted here. Now, I do realize that this is an open forum and it may not be the actual team members who are posting such negative, unsportsmanlike comments. But some comments are obviously coming from short flag team members. Let me remind you ladies (possibly gentlemen) that being on a team and competing is NOT about what place, size or type of trophy you are receiving. How dare you bash competition circuts that are including you and in some cases, highlighting your division. Don't forget where you came from and how many years of sweat and hard work it took for you and your team to be where you are at today. Sharp is a competition for ALL types of teams, including beginners. No one walks away from their competition without a trophy (plastic or otherwise). So what is your problem? As you all know, a lot of competitions charge A LOT of money to participate, some schools struggle to get the money together to attend and in some cases, some schools can not participate because it is just too expensive. Sharp has been known to give out free entries!!! That is to be commended. I understand you are very competitive but you do not have to be so cruel. If all of you short flag teams would show up at a competition with your game face on, what difference would it make who was hosting it? As far as the judges are concerned their score is based on their opinion of how well you did that particular day. Not everyone has the same opinion! You know where you started from each year and how far you have come along, that is all that matters, period!!! Remember you are performers and your job is to entertain people from all different age groups. Stop worrying about petty things, humble yourself and shape up your attitudes!!! Who cares how Sharp determines their sweepstakes trophy! If you understand the business so well, then you wouldn't be concerned with the sweepstakes trophy! You would focus on your division. You can't hate on them for trying to make money, they work hard every weekend to put these competitions on and deserve to make a decent living. For the rest of you who obviously have been taught to be a positive representative of your school, I congratulate you for your accomplishments both on and off the gym floor. You ladies have obviously reached a higher level of understanding when it comes to competing. Your school's would be very proud of your conduct. Have fun and stay positive!!! So with that, I will end my "teacher/coach" lecture to you ladies. I wish you all the best, hope to see you at both the USA Nationals AND West Coast Pep Flag Championships:)
what a random crazy white lady? but she mostly right.
BLA BLA BLA! All do respect say what you want teacher lady, but don't blindly act like you don't know what we're all talking about with Sharp. It's Cheap, it's low class, it's tremendously biased.And who the hell do you think you are?? Take off your blinders and understand where this is coming from. Yes, we've won at Sharp before - a whole lot, in fact - so I have a right to say what I know. These are a response to first-hand accounts, so you have absolutely no business telling us what to do.Go home, check YOURSELF and have a little bit of understanding as to why the criticisms abound for a ridiculous competition as Sharp. If anyone should be ashamed, it should be YOU for your obvious ignorance in the matter.Leave us alone, let us say what we know. And don't you dare tell us kids what to do, got it?
Sharp sucks. that has nothing to do with sportsmanship. I'd rather go somewhere that's fair, thank you.
Sharp judges don't know what they're doing. and for that comment about defending inept judges, I don't buy it. only a flag twirler will understand the intricacies and training involved in choreographing a flag routine. Sharp's judges can't understand that. also, because they're not experienced enough on a bigger scale - their training is only within the Sharp organization and they never hire the real knowledgeable judges like in other comps. They're sort of incestuous like that, which is scary!I get it though, it's nice to have beginning teams compete there. But that's not pep flags, every team on the grid is well-trained. not always clean, but most of the pep flag teams this season are considered advance-level, which has no place in context to participating in Sharp.Sharp is for beginners.
Sharp judges don't know what they're doing. How do YOU know? Are YOU a professional judge yourself? Or is there a degree you must receive in order to become a judge?only a flag twirler will understand the intricacies and training involved in choreographing a flag routine No matter how "intricate" your choreography may be, if it's sloppy, it's sloppy, and a cleaner simpler routine will win over yours, for sure , I know that and I'M not a flag twirler. Sharp's judges can't understand that Really? I happen to know many the sharp "staff" and they comprise of professional choreographers and dancers. Would you like to see some resumes? their training is only within the Sharp organization and they never hire the real knowledgeable judges like in other comps You really shouldn't make comments in which you have NO facts to back up. A lot of judges in other cometitions have degrees in dance and performing arts, but NEVER were working professionals. By the way, do YOU know them? I don't think you know whether they are knowledgeable or not. Maybe you should look up some credentials before you spew your comments. I get it though, it's nice to have beginning teams compete there I suppose your team is professional? every team on the grid is well-trained. not always clean, but most of the pep flag teams this season are considered advance-level, which has no place in context to participating in Sharp To ever think you're too good for something/someone, just shows how truly immature and ignorant you really are. There's a big world out there. You seem to only speak from your own front yard.
looks like someone over at SHARP got butthurt, waaaa waaa waaa! see what you guys did????
I don't work for Sharp. I do know the people that do work at Sharp. I also know that they are college cheerleaders, professional dancers and professional choreographers who are currently working in the industry. I'm not hurt at all. Just stating FACTS. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's another to spread hate and lies when you don't know the facts. You can say you don't like something, or you can say that you feel you are judged unfairly etc. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. What you CANNOT say, is that they don't know what they are doing, or that you know anything about their professional lives, because the FACT is, you do NOT know. That's all.
dude shut up.
USA is better. just leave it at that.
check the credentials people learn your shit before you bash others if sharp was Biased channel would have never won at sharp they would choose teams like bishop or glendora or hoover who have competed with them for years all of you dumb ass hoes need to shut the freak up sit back relax if you don't like sharp 0 well if you don't like MRS CRAWFORD AND MISS DRILL shut up if you don't like USA shut up keep your fat lips sealed
USA is Biased too so everyone should zip it leave people alone mind your own
did most of you know that not all judges are qualified to judge Pep Flags you forget that other than USA having a staff for pep flags not all circuit judges are known twirlers the industry of PEP ARTS OR pom dance etc song OR Military & cheer THESE ARE kinda the basics of pep flags in a different FORM using all aspects of the art DTUSA judges are not pep flags judge but have been trained in one of these similar arts which they know how to judge the overall appeal of a pep flag routine they know whats clean whats hard whats visual whats grabs the attention of the eye
(IN RESPONSE TO THE PASSIONATE IDIOT ABOVE) (QUEENY SAYS) "How do YOU know? Are YOU a professional judge yourself? Or is there a degree you must receive in order to become a judge?" (AND I SAY) YEA, IN FACT, I AM! AND BETTER YET: I USED TO BE ON STAFF AT SHARP, TRU DAT! I HAPPILY MOVED ON AND JUST WANT TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT SHARP, WITH FIRST-HAND EXPERIENCE "No matter how "intricate" your choreography may be, if it's sloppy, it's sloppy, and a cleaner simpler routine will win over yours, for sure , I know that and I'M not a flag twirler." AND YET, IF THAT WERE TRUE, ANYONE OFF THE STREET COULD BE SELECTED TO BECOME A JUDGE, LOL "You really shouldn't make comments in which you have NO facts to back up. A lot of judges in other cometitions have degrees in dance and performing arts, but NEVER were working professionals. By the way, do YOU know them? I don't think you know whether they are knowledgeable or not. Maybe you should look up some credentials before you spew your comments." YEA I KNOW PLENTY. I HAPPEN TO BE WORKING PROFESSIONAL. AND AN AGENCY-REPRESENTED DANCER, NO LIE. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I WAS OFFERED TO JUDGE ONLY WHEN I WAS ONE OF SHARP'S CLINICIANS. AS SOON AS I STARTED TO BRANCH OFF AND WORK EXTENSIVELY AS A JUDGE AT OTHER COMPS, I NEVER HEARD FROM THEM. THEIR LOSS, I THINK. I COULD CARE LESS, TO BE HONEST. "I suppose your team is professional?" WELL, ADVANCED, BUT NOT PROFESSIONAL UNTIL AFTER THEY MOVE ON WITH THIER OWN CAREERS. SOME HAVE EVEN APPEARED AT THE ACADEMY AWARDS, ON BROADWAY, MUSIC VIDEOS. SO, YEA, THEY INEVITABLY BECOME PRO, HAHA! "To ever think you're too good for something/someone, just shows how truly immature and ignorant you really are. There's a big world out there. You seem to only speak from your own front yard. "(YAWN) YEA, IT IS A BIG WORLD OUT THERE. AND AN EVEN BIGGER DANCE/DRILL COMMUNITY WITH OTHER COMPS WHO ARE MORE VIABLE THAN SHARP. SHARP, CHEAP UNPROFESSIONAL SHARP. A GOOD COMP TO START IN, BUT ONE WHAT YOU CAN'T TRULY TAKE SERIOUSLY, HAHA!SO, WHO AMONG US IS THE MORE IGNORANT? CHECK YOURSELVES... WHICH ONE ARE YOU???HAVE A NICE LIFE, DUMMY!!
sharp international sucks
I can't believe an adult is the one that is posting such bitter, hateful comments. And you say that you are a professional? Could of fooled me! "Have a nice life Dummy" ????? Kinda elementary don't you think? Calling people names is not very mature HaHaHa.
Oh I get it, Sharp wasn't cheap and unprofessional when you worked for them but they are now since you left. Thanks for clearing it up for us.
i like how you guys can talk shit anonymously losers! at least that teacher could say all of that under her name unlike you people that just like to talk shit. who cares if there trophies are cheap it doesnt even matter. your only the best unless you know your number 1 in everthing. just a bunch of cocky ass people
sheesh man can't we just enjoy that there are competitions out there to go to??? despite whos better, just supporting the teams who compete is already good enough! who really gives a living crap if usa's staff is better than sharp's... and just because denny, q, and mark are on usa doesn't make them the TWIRLING GODS... i know they've all been coaches of national champions, but dont leave out the other national champs like narbonne and carson...
You are a very smart person!
i wish sharp would put a score sheet like USA does up on their website.
can we ask coaches and leaders what they think. there is an uncomfortable silence by them right now. Liz, Mark, Glen? non SHARP or USA staff? how do you feel about bringing your girls to a SHARP competition.
So I'm a passionate idiot? Well I have no IDEA where you get your info - you must post anon must mean you are afraid to show who you are. My son works for Sharp. He is NOT a judge, however he IS a working professional dancer and choreographer. He is UNION, AND he has an agent as well. We all know that every competition is not only judged by specific criteria, but also included in that is PERSONAL OPINION. Are you saying YOU CHEATED when you were on staff? I don't see the point of any comp cheating. What's in it for them? To get everyone mad so they won't compete with that company anymore? Who would that benefit? When my son's team went to Minnesota and competed at UCA/UDA we were SURE they were going to win. In fact, when the 3rd place team was announced, the other team started to congratulate his team, and they started crying(even they thought they were defeated)... boy were they surprised to hear that THEY WON and that our team (PACE) placed 2nd. Guess what? That's the way the effing ball bounces. Did they feel robbed? Of course. They didn't go all over blogs etc and bash UCA/UDA they pulled themselves up and WORKED HARDER. You have no degree of professionalism coming on here talking crap to me, (BTW my name is Rodilyn Basco-Wooldridge) I am not afraid to say who I am because I can back up what I say. I guess you agree, that it's ok when a team loses that they blame the judges. That is SO IMMATURE and shows lack of team spirit. As far as short flag choreography, if you want to have a bad ass routine, then STICK IT. Don't NOT be perfect, and be mad when the team who makes no mistakes and has an easier routine wins. It's all about knowing what needs to be covered and incorporating ALL of that into your routine, but not only that practicing until you literally throw up so that when you show up to competition you don't FAIL. I can't remember how many times my son got up at 4:30am to go to OCC to go do back tucks because there were people on the team that COULD NOT stick their back tuck. It SUCKED. But you know what? They're national champions. You want to win? ACT LIKE WINNERS... NOT WHINERS.btw ANON EX-SHARP JUDGE:the italics in my post is NOT ME, I am the BOLD print, I think maybe you're the "dummy" in this case?
To the idiot complaining about me, try to look at it this way: I'm here to warn people about Sharp. More importantly, it comes from the respect I have with these beautifully-performed pep flag teams and for any teams, for that matter. Pep flags - and the teams who compete - work hard and perform with such grace, beauty and elegance. The hard work and struggles that these teams go through deserve a place to show this off where they won't have to wonder whether they're being judged fairly, or whether the organization is good enough. SHARP is simply not good enough for these incredible teams. Bishop, Morse, Carson, CI, Camarillo, San Pedro, Narbonne LB Poly.... I love you all! And I would hate for you to sully yourselves and participate in such a cheap, nothing comp! Say what you want and I will do the same: I love all pep flag teams. I celebrate you, pep flags: all teams are impressive, so wonderfully performed. You deserve the same level of respect for all your hard work displayed on the court. Participating in sharp is not going to help in making this category great! So, get this straight, dummy: I have no problem with the teams. I do have a problem with any team going to sharp. You apparently have no quality radar.Teams, save your money: don't participate in Sharp. It's a big joke!!!!
And to BASCO: instead of wondering whether I'm spreading lies, shouldn't you be asking HOW I know what I know? You said you know people who work for Sharp. I'VE worked for Sharp! So, re-think, open your mind and understand the next time you're seeing me warn people again. Get this straight: Sharp sucks!
What are you the short flag monitor? Out on a mission to SAVE all of the short flag teams from what you feel are "cheap" competitions! A lot of the teams you mention go to sharp competitions and there is nothing wrong with that. Why do you have to be such a snob? If the teams decide to go and compete against each other there, that wouldn't make them any less of a team. They are NOT too good for any competition. You are a sad, pathetic person. Do something better with your life than bash competitions like Sharp. Worry about your own team, if you even have one, let the other teams make their own decisions. I hope that this short flag community takes a stand against idiot adults like you and decide to mob in a Sharp competition just to piss you off! Get a life!!!!
my biggest issue about sharp is that they have a competition like almost every weekend. yeah thats great and all, but when comps are every weekend and at different locations, schools will tend to pick a comp that is close to where they are, making the line up small each week, and in some cases teams are just competing against themselves or one other team. so whats the point of going to sharp if the turn out is that small? practice comps? save your money and practice in your gym if thats the case. also, with all these sharp comps all the time, nobody is going to remember who won what years from now. USA regionals, DTU, westco, torrance, all those are just once a year and everybody remembers who won, everybody!
Ola, what's up amigos? :)Hope to receive any help from you if I will have some quesitons.Thanks and good luck everyone! ;)
that's why there are usually traditional sharp comps that pep/short flags go to. La Mirada being a good example. States at Knotts being another "ok" one to go to. there are more but i cant think of them right now.this is Josh from Camarillo BTW... my team's competitive side was founded in sharp. even though we went to SO many sharp comps in past years, we would come in dead last(or close to it) EVERY TIME. -_-" but i don't resent them for it... actually, that's how i know its not rigged or unfair. even though we put so much money into them we still never placed high... i know that's kind of a pathetic way to think or like i don't believe in my girls (I EFFING LOVE MY GIRLS AND HOW MUCH BETTER THEY'VE GOTTEN FROM PAST YEARS.) but back then we deserved what we got.if our adviser could make it we would for sure go to this one ^_^
why bother even going, camarillo? save your money cuz youre going to get last anyway. unless bell competes. then theyll get last.
Anon.. Find another venue to bash your former employer or better yet,be a grown up professinal and say it to their face. Maybe they'lltake your ideas and comments into consideration. Sharp isn't thebiggest or the best. I agree, but talking crap about them isn'thelping and I'm glad you're not there. There is no place in anybusiness for know-it-all-wanna-be's. My son works for Robin- not forthe great money or the glam- but for the love of cheer and dance andto give as much of himself to anyone who wants it. Be passionateabout positive things- give yourself to your community and your"girls". You think you're doing a favor telling them where to savetheir money? Offer your services to make them a better team so theycan win at any comp they enter- or just sit there and talk shit on ablog because that's all you have going for you. Who are you anyway?What do you do to contribute positively? Spreading hate? You're astand up person from where I sit. NOT
my comment is more toward the unnecessary bashing on camarillo. i donno. if you have heard or seen, all camarillo needs is a little more push and practice. its kinda surreal how good and confident they where twirling with/next to CI and Carson at DTU right before they went on. what i like most about them is they actually look like they are having a really great time but at the same time you could see how determined they are. Josh you are doing a really good job building your team, you just need to become a little more strict, which is hard because we all know you're an unbelievably sweet guy. sorry if that comment makes people bash on you and your team a little more .i know how jelous people can get when you praise someone on this blogspot.
camarillo will always be a big joke. I dont seem them anywhere going against the likes of Carson Ci Narbonne Morse Bishop And LBP top 6 teams
First of all, Y'all need to get off the teacher's nuttz. Second, Josh needs to slow down his music just a tiny bit and have his gurls practice their tosses, then they will become good. Third, Ex-Sharp employer doesn't know what the hell he is talking. Fourth, Carson is gonna sweep up this competition with 1st trophies. 5th, I'm out!!!
i rest my case.
I AGREE..CAMARILLO will always be a big joke!!! HAHA. get tired of fighting copyrillo. change the whole team starting from the imcompetetive coach down to the newbie girls. blah!
SO...WHOS GOING TO COMPETE AT CARSON HS? THIS SHOULD BE GOOD PRACTICE PRIOR TO NATIONALS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN ADDITION TO THE WEST HIGH COMPETITION. WE CAN MAKE THIS A GOOD COMPETITION IF ALOT OF COMPETITORS SHOW UP! SO WHOS IN FOR SURE?
is it me or is this season pretty dead.. i mean nationals is in a month and usually by not there's a lot of hype with pep flags..
hype turned to bullshit dramas.
All I have to say to the scared ass people bashing Camarillo is....HI HATERS. People are just scared because they actually made a splash on comp season this year. Now all of you look at them as a threat. If they clean it up they'll be better than all your janky teams with the same choreography. Copyrillo? Really? Camarillo has twirls n tricks that Ive never seen any other team do. And even if it was true that just means they can do the same suff any other team does. So keep on hatin cuz I know for a fact Camarillo girls and the coach aren't phased by you guys.
Wooooo Pep Flagssss thass wssssssuup! i root for Morse :]
who cares if your not phased bitch. You guys suck PERIOD. Honey please you will never be a threat with your lazy twirlers
as much as i want to believe the previous comment... i can't i mean yeah it could happen but maybe not this year i mean we're already close to nationals. I'm not saying it's to late but if they do want to cleanup their routines it's gonna have to be good!!
can people just leave your negative comments to yourselves, thats not what this blogspot was created for. if you dont wanna go then you dont wanna go you dont have to say anything more, just shut the FUCK UP. this site and post was only ever meant to just let people know about whats coming up or recap on what happened.
people you need to keep your negative comments to yourselves. If you dont wanna go then you dont wanna go, you dont have to say anything more so shut up. this blog was meant to let people know what whats coming up or recap on whats happened not to bash on people. I think I speak for more than a handful of people when i say that this needs to stop NOW.
WEST TORRANCE IS THIS SATURDAY!!!!
West lineup anyone?
correct if im wrong, i heard short flag starts at 10:30 am?
hey that routine narbonne took to regionals looks like the one the used for the football shows. I thought they come up different routines for each season?
Pep flags is dead
Go San Pedro !
how come nobody is talking about the sharp comp at arcadia this weekend? temple city, crescenta and hoover will be there!
ALRIGHT. SHARP IS AN AWESOME COMPETITION CIRCUT. ALL YOU PEOPLE BASHING ON IT PROBABLY WON LAST AT THEIR COMPETITIONS. SO JUST SHUT UP, AND SUCK IT. (^o^)
wers the stuff for west torrance? any results?
Westdouble: Carsonsingle: Channel Islandschamps: Carson
nicely done carson..nicely done
OVERALL CHAMPS : CARSON2FLAG1st channel2nd carson3rd bishop1 flagCarsonchannelbishop
west torrance wasn't fair at all.
who performed today? why wasn't there a post started on west torrance?
those results aren't right... because awards were at 7:30
how did bishop place?
stupid ass judges know nothing at west.
Narbonne was pretty good new style still needs workLBP give us some Wow have fun you look bored Sp good to see you guys!! new style of twirling work harder and execute! your 2 flag started out strong but work on your tosses and kicksCi did wellBishop. good job but don't let the pressure keep you from execution Its fair game this year work it ladies be playful with your facesCarson I've seen better performances. but good job ladies
I actually think bishop did pretty well. Careless mistakes, but execution can be fixed. The thing that killed them was energy. With a big team you would think the excitement would be there... but they look tired. Fix it... and you guys will do great!CI did good. nerves got to them again at the same part during regionals... but for three girls, they kept me entertained. Those three girls make up for what other members they lost or could have been competing with. Carson was good... but needs work. Nonetheless, Congrats on the win. Narbonne has great potential! New elements to one flag!!! Different routine from regionals, but needs alot of work. I was entertained... but maybe alittle over done with formation changes. Doubles was my favorite from regionals. Looked better yesterday but fell apart at the end. Energy is another issue... fix it!!!San Pedro was awesome. You guys look better than ever!!! Keep it upLBP was good, but could do better... I was expecting more. With only three girls it's a challenge...
cry me a river...west has always been a respected comp with legitimate judging...let's face it...the unfair/wack judging comments only come out when a person's own team doesn't win
channel got 2nd with 4 drops in 2 flag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcUeVKB87vc bishop 2 flag west 2010
i must say. yesterday was pretty intense, i loved it. pedro looked really good! great job ladies.chann el islands did pretty good as well. their music keeps you hyped throughout.bishop had a few drops in each performance but i think they are a definite threat, as well as chann el islands.narbonne was pretty good as well, just a few drops, but always exciting to watch!!poly was great, i love their singles routine, super cute.carson...
poly: fierce ready sets: cute 1 flag, props for showing flexebility, love the girly theme with the sexy ending =), 2 flag, great routine, but use more energy! you guys have potential of winning this year...pedro: you guys are getting better and better every year =) just clean it up and you'll do well...narbonne: loved the britney spears 1 flag WOMANIZER, guys showed up sexy, hella tight 2 flag routine, changed style but props for keeping traditional moves, kickline was tight =) just work a lot on sticking your mounts and executing...carson: honestly, i think its the same shit every year... just with different girls... but anyways, good job with only four girls... just try and bring something new! everyone's tired of seeing the same crap!bishop: your ready sets are TOO complicated to understand! the white girls got HELLA better. cute 1 flag for lady gaga, and great 2 flag routine, but just work on execution and the transitions between the songs... it seems like its slowing down and then speeding up all of a sudden.ci: work it fierce niggas!!! great ready sets! love the ending for one flag.. HUSH HUSH!! then two flag, showed lots of energy. despite the few drops, you guys worked it...
i'm surprised poly didn't place higher in one flag. no drops and great execution... i believe that would have at least gotten 3rd
I really loved the themed singles. Bishop and narbonne are awesome!!! I am so glad they re-did their routine. They look so fierce!!! Both teams! You guys really need to work on energy though... Love the music!!! lady gaga and britney are the shit!!!!
Whoever said that west has legitimate judges, you are as stupid as them. The dumb old bitches have no idea what pep flags should look like...
give me a break...everyone's decisively won West before...CI, Narbonne, even Bishop, and now Carson...so before you cry a river about what they do or don't know...check yourself...the hypocrisy on this blog is astounding...constructive criticism is valid and to each their own...but have you noticed calling a team out for drops/fumbles/mishaps the words like butterfingers are conveniently used or not used depending on which team you're talking about.here's a thought...maybe people should stop talking crap and worry about their own team.Thank God Morse wasn't at this comp...keep flying under the radar Morse..you don't need this negativity.
do you know who the WEST judges are?compare your scoresheets with other competitions.look who the judges ARE. dumb.
Kudos for Bishop for posting current season footage. And not allowing the majority to rule. Each team I'm sure watches other teams performances, but usually in the privacy of their own homes. Thanx Bishop for allowing those who don't or cannot attend competitions to 'be there' by posting your current team comps. I hope more teams will follow suit. Everyone stop being afraid. There are no laws or rules that state you can't post any video of your choosing. Period!
how's lbp's routine? i've heard mix reviews... i guess since they only have 3 people it's kind of hard plus there's not many formations you can do. Anything that's really cool (Tricks or mount)? I was also wondering about narbonne.
bishop video links?
Bishop is all over the place. Twirls aren't together, and nonetheless are they even strong. They look so graceful. I see no intimidation coming from them. Bishop twirls weak, compared to how Carson and CI twirls. The only reason why Bishop wins is because they have the creativity part down. I'm not so sure about the power in their routines. Graceful twirlers...
hahah look at who the judges ARE?! Let's not open up this can of worms..PULEEAAZZEEE...why not compare not only score sheets from other comps..but ummm how about...how each team performed that day?!DUMB. HA HA HA
you're probably just bitter because the team you wanted to win didnt.yeah go after the judges after scoring is supposedly "biased"
i could learn bishops routine in like 3 hours. their twirls are a joke. i could acctually do them with facials too. bishop's creativity reaches about as far at the white girls on their team.
I think the 'Kudos for posting videos comment' was too soon. They took it down. You mean BISHOP didn't want the world to see what they really think of their fans when you give them the finger? CLASSY, LADIES!
Carson's one flag is horrible! What happened to carson! There music is horrible!San Pedro is looking bobo as always, this is pepflags not military/drill.Bishops Routine looks really easy both 1 flag and 2 flag. There 2 flag music goes flat for me and i get lost in there performance by all the random crap going on.
its raining menhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYSCgs4u4wmark can rain on me any day
i personally like lbp's singles. the girl theme is cute. so is ci's disco theme.. but i'm still rooting for carson!!!!!!
im sorry, but i don't really like bishops 2 flag music. it really seems poorly edited and the transitions are horrible. you go from an uptempo beat to something really slow.. they really need to get that together
bishops routine is way to simple and there too much going on to see wats happening,they look like a hot mess!and its booooring routine... and wats with the facials? do u have something in your eye and ur smiles look like ur on the toilet trying to shit your selfs!
bishop's music sucks... it doesnt sound like ren edited it! honestly, they all sound the same... GET SOME NEW SHIT ALREADY!!!
TALK THAT SHIT TO THEM IN PERSON SEE WHAT HAPPENS
Wow there are a lot of Bishop haters on here. Whatever it is your doing Bishop keep it up and grow from there. At least you girls are placing. They obviously watch you enough to pay that much attention to you girls because if that was me and I think something is boring and not worth watching why take the time to constantly give bad feedback. If you don't like it then pay no attention to it, it's not like your forced to comment...your not a judge! So just lay low on the drama and let the girls enjoy what's left of the season and thy goes for EVERY team out there, don't pay attention to these none sense losers!
who the fuck is ren i guess whoever he is he is hating because they used a different music dj hahaNOW WHOEVER MAKES CI'S MUSIC NOW HE OR SHE IS THE SHIT
Oh please. Bishop loves this shit talking. They thrive off of the attention they get on this sight. Ever notice when someone congratulates another team they have to bring up how good bishop did Comment: CI, Carson, Morse, or whoever did really well.Response: CI, Carson, Morse, or whoever looks retarded, but did you see Bishop’s flawless execution? They deserved first. The judging is rigged It’s like that EVERY SINGLE TIME. They even did it to Camarillo? And I’m sure they would do it to Temple City and Bell too, so sad and pathetic. They only people who are exempt are San Pedro cuz they lick Bishop’s buttholes enough to just get ignored by them. That’s why commenting on this site is so pointless; It always comes back to Bishop is good and everyone else sucks. But in a way I guess it’s a good thing because now Bishop is under the impression that they ARE good. Can’t wait to see their faces when they don’t take nationals
LBP CI & MORSE HAVE GREAT SINGLES ROUTINES
who's going to mddtusa?
USA Nationals - Preliminaries Friday March 26, 2010 Tentative SchedulePep Flags - 1 Flag approx. 12:30pmNarbonneBishop Montgomery Morse Long Beach Poly HooverAdolfo Camarillo CarsonChannel IslandsPep Flags - 2 Flag approx. 2:00pmNarbonneBell Bishop MontgomeryMorseLong Beach Poly HooverArcadiaAdolfo CamarilloCarson Temple City Channel Islands GlendoraGood luck to all participants & do your best!
loved ci's and lbp's singles. work it ladieees! i'm looking forward to seeing you guys BRING IT at nationals!
hi haters ,,,,,,,,,,,,
havent you guys been paying attention? why go on if ur just gunna talk shit, just keep that to ur lame pathetic selfs and if u even have any friends talk to them, ur all low lifes why live off a stupid site like this,start paying attention to your selfs cuz if ur talking shit it just means all u are pussy's and ur trying to sweat each others teams, if u really wanna win pay attention to your own team. cuz EVERY TEAM SUCKS ASS if ur on this web site talking smack.every girl on every team is NOT perfect, so no one has any rite to be on here talking shit.ive havent seen a routine done perfectly this year yet, so let me see a perfect routine then come on here but dont be scared to say who you are, be who your really are alrightsooo all you shut up intil you can back up your talk unless your going to complement another team go ahead and write hear
whoes exited for naaaaationaaaaals!!! its gunna be a interesting year this year.
Nationals is gonna be awesome this year!!! :D can't wait!
i cant for all the teams going to bring it! cuz there really are alot of good teams this year and u never no wats gunna happen, cuz it is going to be interesting
i think ppl shud just wait to see who goes to wat comp till they get there, cuz then itll be a surprise forther girls so the no how hard to bring at comp, so i wudnt tell the girls just so they still work hard and dont slack cuz they think they got it, i wud wait so they no how hard to bring it wen they are there.
^^^^ i only understood like.. 5 wordsbut anywho, yes...we should wait
It's amazing how people find Bishop demeaning but they placed very high.
results:jv:1st place - san pedromiddle school:1st place- carnegieone flag:1st place - narbonne2nd place - carson3rd place - hooversmall division 2 flags:1st place - narbonne2nd place - carson3rd place - arcadia4th place - glendora5th place - hooverALL the teams brought it, good job ladies & gents :)!
GO POLY, BRING IT GIRLS!!!
what happened to bishop.. did they go?
Great job narbonne?! So proud of you girls?!?!?!?
Narbonne, you girls are amazing. Keep it up! Bring it at Nationals :)
Results are wrong. For small division 2 flags:West Coast Champions : Bishop Montgomery1st place - narbonne2nd place - carson3rd place - arcadia4th place - hoover5th place - glendora
WOAH ! Slidee off them brah San pedro licks bishop's "buttholes" ?That was very 'cuteee' sweety buht news flash , san pedro doesn't kiss NOBODY'S ASS !no matter who they are.Imma keep thisz plain and simple , and on the real , they stay out of ppl's mouthsz isz because they have nothin to say about themNor will they EVER say it to their faces !pedro isz and always be a CLASSY team, they dnt talk shit to no one or even think of themselves as cocky bitches like some of the teamsz out there that do (they all know who they are) So do us ALL aye favor and get off that d*ck ! -gracias :)
This is weird… how did narbonne come from not placing this whole season into winning over carson, who has been consistent with placements this whole season? Narbonne either got really good over the week, pretending to suck, or carson just really sucked. And does anyone know the score sheets if Narbonne beat bishop??? I wanna know if the scores were close…
can't wait for DTU and NATIONALS!!!! things i look forward to seeing:ci's fierce 1 & 2 flag. love the 80's theme. HUSH HUSH!! :Dlbp's bomb mount and adorable 1 flag. props to carrying 2 girls! bishop's gagalicious 1 flag!carson's....
1flag overall west coast champs. Narbonne2flag overall west coast champs. Bishop Pepflag Master champs: BMHS 1 Flag Small Division 3 to 6 1st: Narbonne 90.25 very clean no drops 2nd: Carson 3rd: Hoover2 Flag small DivisionNarbonne 1st Carson. 2nd Arcadia. 3rdGlendora 4th Hoover 5th1&2 flag division 8 or more Medium Divisionone and two flag1st Bishop2nd San Pedro2 flag middle school division1st Carnegie2 flag high school Jv division San Pedro
what about dtu line ups?
no Bishop didnt go i heard they droped out like last minute from it,
After watching last nights late competition, Narbonne, despite your 'under the radar' position in the pep flags world, you rocked it! It was a nice mix of old and new school twirls. It's a refreshing change unlike some schools who remain caught up in the same old twirls!You ladies definitely have a chance at winning Nationals! Great job!P.S.You still have the best twirl technique. Hands down!
HAVING HIGH HOPES MORSE WILL TAKE NATIONAL CHAMPS THIS YEAR. JUST SAYIN.
wow... narbonnes 1 flag beat bishops? craaazy!!! It's gonna be the battle of 80's, gaga, and britney!!!
Carson is a butty town. Thanks for hosting a butty competition. While your add it why don't you get a new routine.
HAHA Carson LOST on their own territory! see... Even SHARP is sick of their SAME twirls/sections/formations/ "CHANGE the BEAT"
i was very confused with the divison between the different pepflag teams during awards. why was bishop and san pedro separated from the rest?
what is LBP's mount like? 1 girl carrying 2 girls? sounds intense
it looks like they seperated the pep flag division by the size of the team, san pedro and bishop has 6+ members, while the other teams have 3-6
another reason why SHARP is so DUMB! it's all the same division! they dont realize flags is based on SKILL, not how many skanks you have on your team! no wonder bishop wins all the time!
the military sequence at the end of Pedro's one flag is like one eight count... get it straight.... at least there bringing something different rather than c's repetitive slow twirls.. and those ugly facials!!!!!
wow camarillo at nationals??
how does someone make it to finals? do they have to score something or do they only let in 5 or something?
OMFG JENN DELETE THIS FUCKIN SITE ALREADY
So at nationals the bottom runners for 2 flag areArcadiaAdolfoHooverGlendoraTempleBellWho do you think will surprise us this year? My predictions are in the order I posted them. Though I think Hoover will take Adolfo in the 1 flag. I like predicting this way because these teams are still trying to pull through the awkward stages. It makes thing more interesting. By the way! Welcome to nationals Adolfo. You’re the goldfish in the shark tank so you’ll need all the luck you can get; no one will wish you a real good luck when you get there. Just remember they’re all bitches trying to pull you down. so ignore the next coment a bitch puts on here about how bad you suck. they're just mad they cant three flag.
I'm not understanding this whole west coast champs thing. Does that mean bishop beat narbonne? because i thought they were in a different category?
I hope morse takes nationals this year!
PRELIM PREDICTIONS !!!! 1FLAGNarbonne finalsBishop Montgomery finalsMorse finalsLong Beach Poly 6thHoover 7thAdolfo Camarillo 8thCarson finals or 5th placeChannel Islands finalsPep Flags - 2 Flag im hoping for 5 finalist and 6th placeNarbonne (finals)BellBishop Montgomery (finals)Morse (finals)Long Beach Poly 6thHooverArcadiaAdolfo CamarilloCarson (finals)Temple CityChannel Islands (finals)Glendora Narbonne has clean up a great deal judges will be amazed at there come back keep it up ladies work hard these next 8 days make your fans proudChannel always good with 3 or 20 they will always make a mark haha mark work ladies work the worm is out and these fish are ready to bit!!!Carson showmanship yes but give us more **your fans are ready for change move out of your comfort zone narbonne did and look how well they did ladies you want this title back call in the reinforcements these next few daysMorse i seen your routines i have high hopes for you ladies and gent work to your full potential im sure you've cleaned it up by now good luck guys bring home some SD prideBishop yummy so gaga fierce love it ladies i want more from you guys i feel you tend to hold back like said before be more playful with your face execute you have a girl that is very cute and playful use her energy to channel in all the Gagalicious facials don't get robbed again work it out ladies white tall girl on point!!! execute your angles more define them at all times when you hit them //wish you ladies best of luckwish everyone a great nationals
MORSE IS FIERCE THIS YEAR WITH NEW UNIFORMS AND A GOOD OUTLOOK 2 GREAT ROUTINES
long beach poly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ms Drill Nationals Pep Flag 1 FlagLong Beach Poly (CA) Bishop Montgomery (CA) Channel Islands (CA) San Pedro (CA)Pep Flag 2 FlagChannel Islands (CA) Long Beach Poly (CA) Kyoei Gakuen (Japan) *International divisionSan Pedro (CA) Bishop Montgomery (CA)
uhm.. though morse's routine is amazing.. their uniform is NOT fierce... i'd pick their janky sleeveless uniforms anyday over that atrocious thing they wear now..
narbonne's going dtu... and channel...
whenever i hear lady gaga i want to barf
LBP that's wsup (:
^ does predictions are dumb. LBP are sure to make it to finals. retards.
wow. and now lbp decides to go to dtu when there's alot of good routines.. they dont have a chance
step down.. not like team uniform is hella critiqued by the judges. WHAT'S THE NAME OF OUR SCHOOL? MORSE HIGH! MORSE HIGH, WHAAAt? TIGERSS :)!
Now I know why Narbonne did so good they went against some not so great teams! Besides carson they must've effed up and Bishop wasn't even in the same division! HA I hope this win gets to their head and they do horrible like they usually do tomorrow and at nationals
to the person thats critiquing morses uniform, HAHAHA your HILARIOUS. quit hatin just cause you cant rock it hard like them.
who is this Morse bitch getting fierce????? child YOU need to "step down" your fugly new uniform is still twirling your lame ass twirls three years in a row. Anything to win right?
well, everyone knew that MORSE was bitin offa CARSON ever since they started winning Nationals. looks like theyre juss copyin CARSONs tradition to CUT & PASTE same o' stuff!
ALL THE TEAMS COPY & PASTE...HAVE YOU LOOKED AT PAST CI'S AND BISHOP PERFORMANCES? IT'S THE SAME JUST LIL TWEAKS HERE AND THERE...EACH TEAM HAS THEIR OWN THINGS THAT MAKE THEM WELL THEM AND IT CONTINUES YEAR AFTER YEAR..I THINK ALL THE TALK ABOUT COPY AND PASTE IS JUST TO HAVE SOMETHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT CARSON...BUT THAT'S GETTING OLD ALREADY SO GET SOMETHING NEW TO SAY
its funny how you associate teams of cutting and pasting, EVERY TEAM EFFIN DOES IT! BISHOPS 1 FLAG COPY AND PASTE, CARSON COPY AND PASTE, NARBONNE COPY AND PASTE. Get out of here with that shit talk i swear all of this negativity is coming from one person and this person is probably from carson.
MORSE ALL THE WAY! I hope they place high at nationals! There 2 flag is very bit intresting and there 1 flag is so unique and fresh! And atleast there uniforms are freakin different, all the other uniforms are exactly the same just different colors. Fuck what chu heard, Morse is the true underdog this season!
**PREDICTIONS**0910 USA NATIONAL PEP FLAG**PREDICTIONS**2 Flag1st-- Morse2nd-- Channel Islands3rd-- Bishop1 Flag1st-- Morse2nd-- Channel Islands3rd-- BishopJUST SAYIN`
The key word is TWEAK! carson, beach, and morse DON’T tweak. They take the exact same twirls and just put it into a different 8 counts and to different music. bishop is just twirling like zombies Narbonne, i hear you're doing things a lil different this year and GREAT! I can’t wait to see it. You were once in that copy paste boat.CI you're slowly starting to get into that copy paste thing. Past few years you have made a huge splash and still stayed true to your roots. Keep it up. in my opinion, because we do have easy access to past year performances. we're ready to see something new from EVERY team. keep that in mind for next year.
morse girls are NOT underdogs.. last time i checked tigers are cats... as in the pussied out in every competition that everyone is so courageous to go to... at least everybody else has rep'd their school and lived up to the hype.. morse is all talk, no body control and ugly uniforms.. with matching bobble head that they try to pass for energy and showmanship.. hah! tigers=pussies! stop biting off of carson's routines! and you might actually place high...
morse's routine is too messy and has too many things going on to be top. it reminds me of bishop in 2007. Plus some things that they do aren't visually appealing (the hand stand to the L).. They'd place 3rd at best
Wtf? ''Narbonne won because they didn't go against any of the good teams''? What the fuck type of shit is that... seriously... if that's not a hater comment I don't know what is... smh... I can't believe people are hating on a team that's been around b4 any of these girls were born!! Hahahahah that's so funny. Every team has there ups and downs and I for one seen narbonne at there worst. And now when they start to do better and the crowd is cheering for them, haters come out the closet even more... that shit is so funny.. Narbonne Fuck these hatin ass hoes. I seen EVERY SCHOOLS ROUTINE! And I'm sure you girls got this shit on lock! Trust me .. your routine is VERY DIFFERENT AND DIFFICULT. Jus stick it and you'll be good. Time to bring that National title back ... Its a new decade ... let's start it out right!
have you seen morse's 2 flag this year? i dont see the resemblance to that same 06070809 routine that carson uses with different music. and FYI Morse cant go to all the comps not because they pussied out but because there administration/Advisers wont let them. Morse is not afraid to put it down watch out for them at nationals this year is gunna be intense! Teams i would like to see this year in 2 flag finals would be CI, MORSE, BISHOP, NARBONNE, AND CARSON OR LBP.
what's the schedule for mddt? if it's already happened what are the results?
Yuup I don't see the resemblance to the old routines either. hah whatever, just keep doin what your doin, shit talk all the way cause thats how you get through with life right?
it's so easy to talk shit hiding behind an anonymous name isn't it? you guys are a bunch of pathetic losers. keep your negative thoughts to yourself or behind closed doors if you can't go up to the teams and say it yourself. and if you do go up to them i bet you they won't give a shit. they don't care about your opinions and comments, they know you're all a bunch of hating dumbasses with low self-esteem and obviously if they cared about what you were saying they wouldn't be sticking to what they do best. half of you probably don't even know how to twirl, or probably just post on here because you have nothing better to do than prey on people WHO ACTUALLY KNOW HOW AND WHO ARE ACTUALLY UP ON THAT STAGE COMPETING. get the fuck over yourselves.
what are the results from dtu???
Congrats to CI & Narbonne!!!
so what were the results at mddtusa?
What are the placings for dtu??
my fucking god... i swear, jen if you are reading this, thank you for making this site... i really appreciate taking your time out of your life to put notify people of the pep flag community, but honestly, its just becoming another burn site... if people just can't comment on the good shit that teams are doing, or give some advice instead of trash talk all the ladies/gentlemen who twirl like shit, challenge them! i swear you should have all the haters make a pep flag team and see how shitty they do! these teams work so hard and for so long that its not even funny to them when these haters are shit talking their hard work... now just to sum this comment all up, Respect the other teams, stop your bagging, and see how YOU would feel if you were on a pep flag team and all these bitches are just hating and hating on your team. as a current eighth grader wanting to tryout next year for flaggies, all this shit talking is honestly pushing and pushing me away from being on flaggies. so STOP THE GOD DAMN DRAMA ALREADY! EVERYONE DROPS THEIR FLAGS! ITS HUMAN! just because one team's better than the other, it doesn't mean to start either praising them and not doing shit with the other teams, or shit talking them for an easy win... you guys better realize how bitchy this website has become... just read jen's introduction from the FIRST post at this site... LOOK AT THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE! this is very disappointing... to see people older than me, probably more immature, how they criticize people's routines... if you wanna do that, then BECOME A FUCKING JUDGE! SEE IF YOU CAN EVEN PASS AS ONE! you know what, im done with this crap. i don't want anything to do with this bullshit anymore... unless ya'll STEP UP and BE RESPECTIVE! peace out haters....
Congratulations Channel Islands!
why does every one assume camarillo is going to get last? i think there routines kinda cool, they just need to slow down the music and practice really hard till nationals and who nos wats going to happen.
what were the results prom dru? and how come poky was no where to be found at awards??
Okay just for the record , whoever believes that Bishop has "too many things" going on at once , did you ever had the thought that Bishop is just talented enough and devoted enough to coordinate different twirls at once and not get mixed up? And damn , Bishop's coach is the most creative coach there is out there . I've always seen different twirls coming each year from Bishop ! And they ALWAYS work it ! So unless you have nothing better to say that smack , then say it to their faces the next time you see them , I don't know . Nationals maybe ? This year is fierce yes but don't be so sure of yourself , just yet .
youre right, they work it... to 2nd place.
bishop this year is like channel islands 08 so cant wait for 4th place girls get it!
you all suck. join cheer!
bishop isnt not talented! who ever said that is obviously from bishop! cuz the do the same twirls every yeah! and every1 one there teams doing something different!! you cant tell wats going on! and their facials suck ass alright! there not exiting and off the court they are a bitchs! they need to stop being ghetto and for once just have fun and get a life!
naaaw cheers wack, join songpom
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