Already the first competition has passed at the drama begins once again.
I post events here to carry on the sole purpose that Jenny intended for this website: to inform people of this great thing called Short Flags (or whatever your team may call it) and unite our small, but proud community. I know Jenny on a personal level and I know that she is busy with college life so I try to make an effort to take time out of my busy schedule to keep the site updated... at least with upcoming competitions.
Once upon a time, in 2007, before this site was created, there was a blogger who stole the YouTube persona "qtwirl," the YouTube user who first initially started posting videos of Short Flag routines at competition. Under the alias, xanga.com/qtwirl used his/her blog to bash on each and every competitive team. The pep flag community was in an uproar and united against this person. People even tried to figure out who this person was so they could approach the situation in person. For one time, instead of people (teams, supporters or alumni) talking shit about others in the pep flag community, they banded together and defended each other against the backlash that was xanga.com/qtwirl.
If you have a xanga account, you can read all the posts that he/she wrote, as well as remarks that others left to talk back to "xanga qtwirl," as everyone referred to he/she as. Even at 2007 USA Nationals, teams united after awards to take pictures and even made a video especially to talk back to the person. You can find one of the videos of that here: message to xanga.com/qtwirl.
Honestly, though I find many of the anonymous posts people leave on this blog amusing, it does not show our small community in the best of light. Someone may stumble upon this website after discovering Short Flags at a competition and this is what they are going to read? Hateful messages, shit talking, etc.? Granted this is a highly competitive sport, and people are free to say whatever they want, I just feel like we need to remember a time where one person took it upon him/herself to HATE on us. And how we felt so strongly about this community to talk back.
I admit that my girls do keep to themselves at competition, but not "walking around like they own the place." They are just staying focused and getting in the zone. I don't think it should be taken as anything else but that. Blatant attacks on teams or their alumni should have no place here on this blog. It's funny that some of the So Cal comments refer to one of our alumni, Tiffany, and she wasn't even at the competition. Which goes to show that people who weren't even there are trying to cause drama. Because if they were there, they would know she wasn't.
In this new decade of Short Flags, maybe we should all collectively agree to show better sportsmanship. I know in this competitiveness, pride is very high... people should be able to say what they want. But do this among yourselves and your team. There is no reason we should be posting it on here.
But hey, whatever I think or say, people are still going to do it right? So let's not take offense to anything people post here. I just laugh at all the silly remarks. I mean, most of its anonymous anyway... for all we know, xanga.com/qtwirl is still among us right now.
Here's a lil photo I found that someone made on Facebook. You have to click on the image to see the whole poster.
Imagine a whole series of Short Flag Bring It On movies?! =)
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MARK!! why would you!
what mark said is true. we need to fucking stop bagging on every team. i remember when the days my sister was on short flags 10 years ago, and everyone from different schools were actually friends. now, it's gotten like the stereotyped cheerleaders who just have that mentality that they're the best, and fuck the rest. seriously, why is everyone hating now?
carson and channel? really -_______-
omg i imagine a series like that almost every day of my life!
quite honestly, i agree with mark. its extremely strange to see such encouraging people and faces @ comps and camps and other events. than coming home to read all the negative things people have to say be it current members, alumni, or(and i wouldn't be surprised) coaches.
this website isn't an encouraging outlet for the community. this WILL deter (if it hasn't already) people joining the sport. hello! its the first thing that pops up when you google "short flags" and everyone wonders why teams are getting smaller.
take this next part lighter than the literal words im typing. but this also speaks volumes to the Filipino community as well. like it or not this is a sport dominated by Filipinos. i don't want to be seen as back stabbing and shit talking because of immature comments said here.
Wow Mark, I haven't been on here for who knows how long. I've been so busy with school / PAC / Modern / work etc.
I'm thinking about maybe upgrading the website..splitting it into information purposes and then having comments somewhere else for the teams.
I don't know how long this would take to go into full affect, but it would take some time.
I honestly didn't think making this website would have gained such a reputation as big as this, but I hope we can salvage what's left. If it wasn't for short flags and its community, I really wouldn't be the same person I am today.
follow me and let me know what you think!
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yeah yeah yeah shaddup! videos please!
well there still are teams who are friends with each other. it's bishop and carson who always seclude themselves from everyone else.
well actions speak louder than words lets see if this season all the teams go out and say hi to each other! whats the whole point of "keeping to yourselves" you could be friendly to a squad and still compete against them! lets be competitive on the floor ladies not off of it! so tell your stuck up bitch ass team to calm their asses down(channel Islands) !!!!!
I think that Channel keeps to themselves because they dont wanna be part of the fakeness of the hi and byes yes you can be friends out of the competition but channels head always seems to be in the game. Thats how they become champions keeping there eyes on the prize and always having that competition mentality not having to worry about anyone else and the fakeness. Channel always seem to just put all the shit talking aside its all the haters and veterans that always try to bash on them or start the shit why doesnt everyone try something new. Every year its the same shit everyone talks and talks but still channel comes out on top
"calm your asses down (channel islands), because theyre too hyper and excited. your asses are hungry and need some carne asada fries from alberto's. just tell you asses to take deep breathes and hopefully your asses will calm down. or maybe your asses need ritalin or ateral to calm your asses down who knows? i think you have to take a shot in your asses for them to calm down too. thats hot. i want one. maybe i need to calm my ass down. shits flying everywhere, i need a shot. jager bomb please, in my ass thank you.
MOESHA...its adderall DUMBASS!and shut the fuck up yeah you do need to calm your fucking down... yeah hungry and excited to fuckin win bitch
Excuse me, can I please twirl for you for a minute?
Monica no you can't
@Brandy: i just wanna let you know that.. That twirl is mine
i dont think channel keeps to themselves.. they just have a big dance team that they can hang with.. carson has streetdance and channel has their dance/drill team.
Uhr Hur sure your knorw your loork kirnda farmiliar.
@monica the twirl has been mine cunt ! It belongs to me not yours but mine
So apparently, oxnard had 6 members to begin with. Three of them got eaten by big bird and barney during warm ups.
10.0 was the difference
BARNEY AND BIG BIRD?! thats no way to address channels coach and captain
leave oxnard out of this! they have a bomb ass 1 flag
Too bad ci's coach and captain is mo'nique and whitney Houston.
all the haters are mad cause they were never on a team and want to twirl and will never twirl in their lives! hahahahahah
now that Joseph is the coach of oxnard, Josh from cam isn't the hottest coach anymore.
awhhh. oxnard's routine was cuteee
omg i just watched Oxnard i was so over it i kept fast forwarding. They look like wanna be Channel Islands but three people was so last year
i have to disagree, josh is still the hottest. looks wise anyways.
carson this year?
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i heard that carson can't compete this year cuz their third member dropped, and no one made their second tryouts.
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IM TIRED OF ACHS SHORT FLAGS STEALING CHANNEL ISLANDS TRADITIONS!!!!
WHERES QUEEN MARK! YOU NEED TO REGULATE ON THESE TRICKS!
Josh isn't coaching Camarillo this year....but he's still the hottest.
To the poster saying Camarillo stole CI's tradition.... really? It's their effing homecoming routine. Is it their competition routine? NO. Does it matter? NO. But obviously you're snooping on Camarillo's page for a reason. Trying to stir up drama. If they bring that to competition then maybe you can say something. They probably just used it for fun at their homecoming routine. And on top of it, it's a fairly easy exchange. Also, what else has Camarillo supposedly stolen? Get real people and don't flatter yourselves. Let's face it, there's only so much you can do with two flags anyway, you really think everything you supposedly came up with is original? Why don't you worry about competition and your own team before going and commenting on others.
wow camarillo hasn't even hit the floor yet. well anyways it was brought up really early so i'll admit it now.
Joshua Trickey here.
i'm not quitting. i'm just taking a step back. i'll be back in the comp. sceen next year. but as of this year i'm just a spectator. good luck to everyone. -^__^-
The idiot above me is probably Josh. That routine had so many of CI's signatures but they were just fixed a little.
Okay I was looking through pictures on their ACHS site and I saw a picture of them attempting to do what looks like CI 2008 2 flag mount. If your going to steal what we do then make sure after every performance you thank Channel Islands for creating that mount or trick sections for you to copy. And FYI you using CI's stuff to your school who probably doesnt know a thing about the short flags world would probably think that your team made that up. So be sure to take credit where credits due.
well not to mention , camarillo did admit to getting "inspiration" from bishop's 09 flag pattern .
you went through the pics on their site? thats kind of pathetic. and i dont mean camarillo. i mean YOU the individual who actually went out of their way to see if camarillo had anything video/pics/website. cyber stalk, jeez.
oh! another cam loser fan defending its crappy team again. well let me tell you honey. why dont you talk to you crappy team who doesnt know anything but to steal tricks from other team?!! well thats pathetic lol! well you see, if you guys have crappy coach who breeds crappy girls who then steals routines all the time, not to metion loses all the time, then why waste time practicing ang competing if you will lose again and again and again. how long have you guys been losing?? ugh like forever??? lol start the big change by dumping the coach. all face but no originality. wait for his reaction!! ^____^
go bitches!!
to the hater above.
that last comment was really sad. it sounds like a last ditch attempt to get the last word. Camarillo got beat last year, but they didn't loose ether. didn't you check the scores from nationals? they beat Temple, Arcadia, and Bell. they are getting better every year while other teams stay the same. im not a fan and im not condoning stealing moves. but im excited to see them compete this year and future years. we all start from somewhere.
with that said lets drop the Camarillo topic. it was a rally, get over it! no one calls Hoover out for stealing Carson moves, they are worse than Camarillo in my opinion. but i don't even want to get started on that. just drop it all together.
so pathetic.
Not when I specifically remember josh stating before that "his girls have too much time on there hand to deal with negative comments". CAMARILLO needs to just gtfo outta the pep flag world and back to the street corner they came from. PEP FLAGS WAS FINE BEFORE THEY ENTERED THE PEP SCENE!
SO MUCH DRAMA!! -______-
wow. seriously just shut up.
on the other hand...
NEW YEAR=THE START OF REAL COMP SEASON!
who do you thing is gonna take it this year?
Believe or Not??..Mark is " qtwirl "
lol who ever said it was fine before camarillo is a shear idiot. we've have this drama as soon as qtwirl hit the scene and youtube videos were posted back in 2006. i think camarillo gets it really bad now cuz they are the new team and people cant come up with new shit to talk about the older teams. people have always talked shit. even way before this blog. just look up a nationals vid from 2007. do your homework you new generation obese shit talking newbies.
GO SPSV!!
srsly . people need to SHUT THE FUCK UP on this website . it's just putting unnecessary stress on the people on the teams . no wonder why every team sucks now compared to their previous years in the glory days . before , teams were actually friends with each other . i remember i'd always see carson , narbonne , channel islands , and bishop girls always taking pictures with each other after competitions . now when i see them take pictures , they have this like awakard feeling around each other . think about what you post on this site . it can really get someone asshurt .
anyways , hope you all had a merry christmas and 2011 , hopefully there's a BIG change in the mixed emotions about everyone . DEUCESS !!!
^^^ hAHAHAHAHAA!!!! werk!
i know who's not gonna take it! BISHOP! gtfo of here you nasty bitches.
i totally agree with ^^^... the xanga version y'all!
does anyone remember the results from camp? please and thank you! :]
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Who wants a free preview?!
maybe if you actually saw their routine in person, you would see how channel islands' routine really looked like. but i bet they have improved since then
wow! you crazy ass trick obsessed much ? you fuckin' bought the DVD who the fuck does that?
Who's ready for Regionals??? Which teams are going to Agoura vs. Orange Lutheran?
so carson's 5-member team decided to meet up with oxnard... it didnt end well.. now carson is down to 2... sad times...
What does that even meet? What does meeting with Oxnard have to do with having two members?
Where is Carson, Oxnard, Narbonne, Channel Islands, Morse?!!? They aren't on the line up for BOTH competitions!!
bwhahahaha.. it means that oxnards members ate 2 of them lol
anyways you guys are really talking about oxnard's members really get a life! they may be fat but whatever its nothing new! everyone has fat girls so yeah get over! whoever is writing those comments I bet your school has a fat chick too so STFU
who is going to agoura and orange lutheran?
agoura and orange lutheran are coming up this weekend!!! whos ready to freaking DOMINATE ?!
you can find the tentative scheduals are up for both comps ^___^ go to the USA website.
Why isn't Channel or Carson going to Orange Lutheran or Agoura?? Where is everybody???
as far as i know , i hear that carson doesnt have enough members to compete .
IT'S OBVIOUS THAT NO ONE IS MONITORING THIS HELL SITE, BECAUSE ALL OF THE FUCKEN BULLSHIT IS STILL BEING PUBLISHED.EVERYBODY MUST LOVE ALL THIS DRAMA OR THERE WOULDN'T BE SO MANY DAMN NEGATIVE COMMENTS POSTED BY "ANONYMOUS" IF YOUR'E GOING TO TALK THE TALK THEN POST YOUR NAME!!!
All you Camarillo 'haters' can go suck it. They know they aren't the best team. But how were they supposed to know their twirls were stolen? All this crap against the girls should be directed at the person who taught them in the first place.
AMEN!
GO! copyrillo!
Stop hating on Channel , just face it NO ONE will ever be as great as them, they've set records and held titles! all you other teams are just wannabes... GET OVER IT! and just appreciate Channel ...BOW TO THE CHAMPIONS biootchesss!!!
I know that this is irrelevant but it isn't that shortflagsies hate other twirlers for no reason it's that some pepflags are acting as fake as it gets and setting the standards fairly Low. I don't understand why there's so much drama so much for a "welcoming environment " don't expect as many people to try out this year partially because of this behavior ,it disappoints me to say that I'm a twirler you might be a phenomenal twirler but your attitude will definitely need some major work
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